Tiny Homes, Big Impact: 3D Printing Construction With Gene Eidelman

Have you ever wondered how to break into a completely new industry and achieve rapid success? This episode is for you! Our guest, Gene Eidelman of Azure Printed Homes, is a serial entrepreneur who has done exactly that. He’s revolutionizing the construction industry with his company that builds tiny homes from recycled plastic using 3D printing technology, tackling the housing crisis while combating environmental waste. Listen in as Gene shares his fascinating story and insights on finding a new market, the unexpected ways customers are using his product, and how his company is giving back to the community by providing affordable housing solutions. You’ll also learn how he turned a social media post into his first paying customer! Tune in now and prepare to be inspired by how Gene is changing lives and communities one home at a time.

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Tiny Homes, Big Impact: 3D Printing Construction With Gene Eidelman

Welcome to this moment in time when you get to chill out, tune in, and extract wisdom you can use to grow your business with your first thousand clients. By the way, if you’re a coach, you’re going to love what I have for you in this episode. I have a software platform I created for my own coaching business called ClientFol.io. 

It’s been helping hundreds of coaches save time on admin, get better results for their clients, and help them generate more powerful client testimonials, which usually lead to higher fees. How? By simply tracking results using accountability. The platform is optimized to track goals and accountability and help you, as a coach, optimize those for your clients. 

If you’d like to give it a try for just a dollar, go over to ClientFol.io and give it a whirl. It’s just a dollar, and it will revolutionize your coaching business. Now, onto my amazing guest and his incredible story. Now, listen carefully. This is a business strategy that I’ve seen over and over again. Massive change almost always comes from outside an industry. 

Now, it did for me when I started a legal software company, I had no experience as a lawyer or even in the legal market, yet I was able to break into that market with a revolutionary product dominated and become the industry leader in a short period of time. In this episode’s guest is doing the same exact thing. He’s built over 6,000 condos and apartments in Southern California as an immigrant from Ukraine. 

He found a way to become successful very quickly, but he wasn’t yet done. In early 2023, he teamed up with a few technology partners and created a very unique printed home manufacturing company. Now, the reason this is so important is because not only is he building these tiny homes, which is fashionable, but he’s building them from recycled plastic. 

Now, you know the problem we have with recycling now. Imagine if there’s a home builder who could turn all of that garbage into secure and comfortable housing for many, many people. That’s what he’s doing, but that’s not all he’s doing. Even as he’s doing this, he’s continued to resettle over 6,000 refugees from the former Soviet Union, and there’s so much more to share about this man. He’s incredible. Welcome Gene Edelman to the show. 

Mitch, thank you so much. It’s great to be here. 

Gene’s Origin Story

Gene, clearly, you have so many cool things going on. Why don’t we go back to the beginning? How this all start for you? 

Sure. A little bit of my history, as you mentioned. I came here from Ukraine as a refugee after high school. When I started college at USC, my brother and I passed our real estate exams, and then a couple of years later, we invested our commissions into building first condominium project in West Hollywood. That was five units, but it was a great experience. 

California is such a tough place to build it. If you can learn how to do it here, you can pretty much do it anywhere around the world. Thirty years later, I’m a first-time founder of a new startup. After I sold my third one, I said, “Let me go back to my roots.” What we put on our blackboard was, can we build faster, cheaper, and with less environmental impact? 

Like you, I have kids and worry about their future with all of the changes in the environment. Construction industry, second worst polluter, second only to others. If you take a look at other manufacturing, 100 years ago, we were still riding horses and then gasoline cars, and of course, now this revolution to EV vehicles. 

With construction, if you look at the picture a hundred years ago, there was a guy with a hammer and a nail, and a 2×4. Not much has changed. Every construction project, there are these huge trash bins. It seems like 50% of the stuff we buy at the supplier gets thrown away. Cost-wise, there’s been a lot of fluctuation during COVID, but before and after COVID, there was a shortage of labor, quality labor, shortage of materials. 

A.) It’s impossible to determine the price of the project before you start. Always change orders involved, and B.) impossible to figure out the timing. A lot of the timing gets affected by weather, by lack of supplies, by lack of labor not showing up. Again, our mission was to find ways to do it faster, cheaper, and lessen the impact. I, one morning, saw a video of a YouTube channel that had a 3D printing with cement, and I told my business partner, “Why can’t we do the same thing, only I just don’t like cement?” I said, “Why not something else?” He said, “Why not plastic?” I said, “If we’re going to use plastic, why not recycle plastic?” That’s a short summary of how we got here. 

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Sustainability: Using Recycled Materials

I want to just ask a couple of questions about that. Did you decide to do this when you figured out that there was a machine that could use recycled plastic? Or did you decide to do this and then go find a way to do it? It’s important. I need to know. 

No, it’s the latter. What I loved about 3D printing, it was totally automated processing. I saw a guy standing around, but nobody was doing any work. Somebody pushed the button. I love that. For the last seven years now, first time in Europe, in France, somebody moved in the house in 2017. Now, in the US, it’s been picking up steam. 

The problem with cement, first of all, it’s expensive. It’s more expensive than lumber. Second of all, it doesn’t have very good insulation properties. It’s not good for insulation. Finally, and the most important is, it’s very heavy. It’s not something that you can print in the factory and then move way on. With cement, you have to bring 3D printing equipment to the site. 

When you do that, then you lose a lot of the flexibilities that we thought of. In our mind, it wasn’t only just 3D printing. It was also 3D printing in the factory. In the factory, we’re literally now open 24-7, and the machine runs, whether there are employees there or not. No disruption because of the weather. Much better quality assurance because you now record what’s going on, you watch what’s going on, where if you do it on-site, and it’s back to the problem of traditional construction, you’ll know who showed up. You’ll know what the weather is like. The schedule gets upset if it rains or too hot or too cold or too high of a wind. We loved the process. We loved the automation. We didn’t like the material or doing it on-site. 

That makes a lot of sense. I understand that. I see the rationale, but I got to tell you about my interest in this. Readers, just for full disclosure, I know Gene. Gene and I are friends. When I found out what he was doing, I approached him and said, “Can I invest?” I wanted to be part of this. Here’s why. I’m just telling you, Gene, this is what I liked about what you were doing. 

You were solving three problems at the same time. That’s rare in a business. Sure, there were people building tiny homes, but they were built from conventional materials. They still had a lead time. On top of that, they were small. You’re saving money because they’re small, not because of any other element of them. 

The second problem that I believe you’re solving is you’re solving the population problem. You’re also solving the significant problem of what to do with plastic bottles and recycling. This, to me, is major. If it’s okay, Gene, I’d like to mention something you told me. You told me that you worked with a chemist to formulate the material, the plastic that you use to give it well over a 50-year life and very powerful insulation properties. This, to me, was all very attractive. 

The third thing is that these weren’t recycled old railroad cars that frankly are terrible insulators. God, forbid you need to make a phone call from inside one of those houses. You’re basically sitting in a Faraday cage. It solved a lot of problems. I love the idea that you can basically pop them out almost every day or two, and you could ship them anywhere in the country. 

That was what brought me into your world and getting to know you and the investment better. My perspective here is look at all the good you’re doing with the world with this business. Now, the question is, how do you take it from here? You have a factory. You have one factory now with what I think is it three machines that you’re pumping out these homes with right now? Is that right? 

Right. 

What do you do next? What’s next on your agenda here? Are you going to build a bigger building with more machines, or are you going to disperse these mini-factories all over the country? 

The goal is to just disperse these countries all over the country and all over the globe. Quite honestly, Mitch. The factories are smaller than traditional factory manufacturers of housing because if you go to some other factories that are 100,000 to 150,000 square feet, ours is 20,000 square feet. What takes most of that 100,000 to 150,000 square feet? It’s an area where you build a structure. 

That’s the most labor intensive, material intensive. In our area, it’s an area that’s 40 x 40. It has a space for a printer, and it has a platform that’s 20 feet in diameter. We’re able to use micro factories. That’s number one. Number two is we want to spread them out to be closer to the customer. Right now, it only saves costs. 

The reality is shipping costs have come down. Since COVID, it’s become much more competitive. There are a lot more truckers. One of our investors is an expert in logistics, and we work with customers to figure out the time when we can ship a unit there, but then on the way back, the same trucker will take some loads to Los Angeles forth that reduces the cost. 

We’ve been able to bring the cost of shipping down to under 5% to 10% of the total cost of the unit. Still, it’s not just being closer to reduce the shipping cost, but also to customize it. We are in California. It doesn’t snow. All of our units have this modern but flat roof design. Our next factory, and I’ll tell you a little bit more about it in just a minute, is going to Colorado. 

There are a lot of areas that have snow. We have more units that we’ll make in Colorado with an A-frame roof so that snow can run off easier. Talking more about Colorado, our initial goal was to raise the money for our first super factory that we’re now in. The thought was, “We’re going to need to continue to raise money.” Quite honestly, a lot of investors were not enthusiastic about just being investing in this capital-intensive business. 

We went around and we identified Colorado because they had an RFP, a request for proposal, to bring factories to the state. They experienced a housing shortage, just like so many places around the country and around the globe. We have a shortage of over 5.2 million homes in the US alone, and around the globe it’s measured in billions. 

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Colorado issued an RFP, and we responded to it. Of the companies that they selected, we’re the only one who 3D prints. The other seven are doing traditional housing manufacturing. Colorado awarded us just a little bit under $3.9 million at 1.5%, 20-year amortization during 10 years, very favorable terms. Now, we have a formula of how we can go to many other states and see whether we can get similar incentives so that now instead of raising money for capital, we can raise money for two things. More marketing.

You and I talked about it for a while. We want to get the product out. Now that we have additional capacity in our California facility, we can open in Colorado in just about four months. Now, I’m not afraid of going after a larger contract to be able to do that. Number two is additional testing. All of our units now are one story, which there is plenty of demand for that, but many more customers are asking for us to go vertical, to go multi-story, and that requires additional testing. 

We’re getting requests from all over the globe. It seems like with all the wars going on, where there is thousands of units getting destroyed, with natural disasters, from earthquake in Turkey a couple of years ago to wildfires in Maui, where 2,200 homes were destroyed just seven months ago, there is just increasing demand for more housing, faster housing, less expensive, and finally sustainable. I’ll be more than happy to talk about sustainability as well. 

 

I want to touch on that because, again, I’m fascinated with the process and the fact that you’re using these recyclable materials. It’s almost an obvious question, but it’s funny in a way because I know there’s so much of it. Is there enough recyclable material to fuel your growth into the next 5 to 7 years? 

Most of the research we did prior to starting building our first printer was exactly that question. Is there enough material? Here’s an incredible statistic we found out. Only 6%, all the plastic that we use is recycled. I’m sure you, I do, we have these recycled bins. We spend so much time and effort to separate the plastics. If you think about it, after that all of that is done, 94% of it goes into landfills and into the ocean. 

I just read a study that by 2050, we’ll have more plastic than fish in the oceans. In the developing countries, they don’t have recycling facilities. They either burn the plastic, which is awful or just dump it. Next is what kind of plastic? There are many, many different plastics. We’re using something called PETG. That’s a material that’s used for water bottles. 

Of all of the materials that are one use, we use it and throw it away, 20% of that is using PETG. There is enormous amount of it produced every day, every hour. Number one. Number two, it’s a very inexpensive material. That’s why it’s used for this. Finally, it’s been tested by different authorities around the world because that’s a material that’s used for water bottles. It’s also a material that’s used for food containers. 

That is the best material. It’s very stable. The reason it’s allowed to be used for food is because it’s very stable, and there is plenty of it, and it’s very inexpensive. Those three factors, the fact that so little of it gets recycled, the fact that there’s so much of it being produced every day, that’s what led us to do this. We mix it with fiberglass. Sixty-five percent of the material is plastic, and about 30% of the material is fiberglass. What fiberglass does is add rigidity to it. 

If you go to Home Depot now, they sell fiberglass rods that replace an iron rod in cement. It’s light and very rigid. The other 5% is a little bit of our secret sauce. That’s where we add UV stabilizer because plastic, if you leave it outside in the sun, you can see it changes color and shapes. There is a 15-year color warranty on the product, so you don’t have to repaint it. You just need to pressure wash it. 

Insulation Quality

That’s amazing. Let’s talk about the insulation quality of it. We talked earlier that standard building materials, a lot of smaller, tiny home or pre-manufactured homes are potentially made out of the same materials that we make regular homes out of, they’re just smaller. We have the RV market or the manufactured home market. They, too, are made out of a combination of sheets of plastic and maybe some fiberglass and maybe some steel. Yours is cast using this plastic. How does it hold up to the weather? Hot or cold? 

We basically print an outside wall of the unit and inside wall in the unit. On the inside, we run what we call channels. Those are areas that we fill with insulation. That’s where all the electrical, mechanical, water, sewer lines go in. The standard that we use is R30. Again, in many Southern states, Sunbelt states, R30 is a requirement for the roof, but we have R30 on the sides of the building and also in the floor. 

Again, when buildings are built, especially in one-story homes, you have a slab. Slab is cement and cement is just a poor insulator. You have R30 in the ceiling, R19 in the walls and who knows what is in the floor. Our unit is R30 all the way around. We print the roof, two side walls and the floor. We’re able to achieve this R30 all the way around. 

Front and back, we use a cement, and we use a wall that’s prefab. The front and back has R19, but still overall unit is much better insulated. Now, some of our customers from the Northeast or even from Colorado want to have a higher insulation because it can get very cold. By just having a larger area between the interior and exterior wall, we can insulate up to R49. 

In that respect, 3D printing is very easy way to customize construction depending on customer needs, where if you were to go with like a standard set of plans and you were to send it to Massachusetts and say, “Do you have higher insulation,” you would need to redraw the plans. The other thing that was 3D printing, I know you’ve probably seen our images, we have these curved shapes and some of our customers are saying, “Your units are sexy. They have curves.” 

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It’s not just the way we design. In the traditional construction, if you have something other than a square or a rectangular, the cost of doing curves is three times what the normal construction is. With 3D printing, the cost of curves, it’s exactly the same thing. It’s faster than doing a sharp corner. That’s another a design advantage of the technology. 

Breaking Into A New Market

I love that. That’s amazing. I want to switch gears here. Gene, at this point, what I want to know is for people reading, maybe they’re not in the real estate business. They’re certainly not in the manufacturing business. What I want to know is how do you break into a new market. This was a completely new market for you. You took an unconventional approach, broke in, and achieved some success pretty quickly. What were the secrets there? How did you do that? 

The secrets are our customers. There are so many entrepreneurs who invest in real estate that some of the customers came from totally unexpected places. It took us a good three years to think of how this technology will work, finding materials, building our first prototype. The best story is the customer from Big Sur California, it’s in central California. 

This customer of ours, the way he told me when he saw this prototype, when he saw it on Facebook, he jumped on his Harley, called his buddy who has another Harley, and they drove down to our factory. They have a beautiful property right over seeing Pacific Ocean. They just saw that this will solve their problem because it also gets very windy. 

It’s a glamping resort. They have a lot of tents and other structures that don’t do that well in the wind. It also can get pretty cold there in the wintertime. They heard about insulation, and they just love the image and about 23% of the consumers are early adapters. This is a perfect example of an early adapter. He saw what we were talking about. 

We were even talking about an ADU something totally different. He saw the image and he understood what it could do. The story with him is he bought a unit that retails for $40,000. He bought every upgrade. He wanted solar because he does his off grid there. He wanted a real high finish. The unit that usually retails for $40,000. 

By the time he bought all the upgrades, and of course, it was tough to install because it’s very high in the mountains. It cost him $60,000. Once we installed it late last year, he was totally booked for months in advance, and he’s getting $750 per night. He’s going to get his money back in under 120 days. There was no way for me to imagine. 

Again, I thought this unit could run for a couple thousand dollars a month. He owned the property. He’s an entrepreneur, and it’s story like this over and over again. Another customer who bought a backyard studio, he said he’s working from home. He wanted to have it for himself so he can have peace and quiet when he works or have calls with clients. 

After we installed the unit, his teenage daughter took it over for a yoga studio. He now says, “Gene, I might need to buy another unit because other members of the family have other ideas for what this can be used for.” There are great stories like this. Of course, now our challenges or the challenge opportunity is to take some of these early examples into mass markets. 

There are other glamping resorts. We now have a customer who is buying 25 of them because he wants to do a whole resort with units like this. There are other people who need them for yoga studios, and on and on. It’s an exciting time. I couldn’t imagine it, quite honestly, because I thought of this as an ADU that I could see. I’m not a glamper, or at least didn’t used to be a glamper. I went to Big Sur and just saw why people are paying that money. It’s a beautiful view, and it has beautiful hiking and camping. At night, if you want to stay in a nice and comfortable place and take a shower the next morning, our unit just makes perfect sense. 

That’s great. I heard a lot of different things that I think are important to point out. Number one, you made an aesthetically pleasing product right off the bat. That’s what attracted people to you. That’s important. If you’re building something and you’re not paying attention to aesthetics, clearly, that’s a mistake. I’m sure you’d agree to that. 

Secondarily, what you did is you made sure that you had upgrades, that you could take that sale and basically increase it by at least 50% using upgrades. That’s a very important strategy. Third, every unit you build becomes an ad for another customer who might want the same thing. These are basic marketing strategies that you seem to have implemented perfectly. 

Addressing Homelessness

That’s I think why when people stay in these places, they go, “I love this. I want to come back and maybe even get one from my own home.” The part of the problem that we haven’t talked about yet is the problem of cities right now dealing with the homeless, which is widespread. What I love about some of the things you’re doing is I know that you have been diligent about reaching out to these cities and trying to help them solve these problems with your products. 

From the standpoint of giving back and contributing, I know that you’ve been offering some fantastic discounts to cities and counties who want to build homeless shelters. To me, that’s important because not only are you doing the right thing for your company, but you’re doing the right thing for society, too. That’s a business strategy as far as I’m concerned. It’s a good thing to do. You’re a good person to do it, but it tells people right away the type of business person you are, and they probably want to do business with you. Would you agree? 

Absolutely. We are very mission oriented. Again, all the people have a different vision of what their home is. I don’t know the home you grew up in. I grew up in an apartment building. I was in the Soviet bloc. You’ve seen plenty of those pictures. We’re on the fifth floor of a five-story building. There was no elevator. I moved here to California. I live in the suburban area, very beautifully manicured. 

Seven and a half years ago, I lived in Malibu. Again, great area. Look at what happened to the three areas where I lived most of my life. My apartment block has been bummed out. There are millions of people who lost their housing in Ukraine. This beautifully manicured areas in Los Angeles, we have 70,000 people homeless on our block. 

I was out of town last week. When I came back right here, just down the street, I have two new homeless who are young people. I can’t imagine how they live in this environment. There are, like I’ve said, thousands of them here. Malibu, again, lived there when I just moved back to California. Five wildfires destroyed the area, and thousands of homes were lost. 

My point is we are living in a time where there is just an increasing need for fast, inexpensive, sustainable housing. In every one of these examples, just from my personal experience, and it’s not just discounts, just like we’ve talked about how we have a unit and people can upgrade it. You can take the same unit and downgrade it. 

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The way to make it practical for the cities is to have less glass so that it’s easier to maintain and make them smaller. Now, instead of a $40,000 base price for a beautiful unit that has a Pacific Ocean, it still is very attractive. Now, it’s under $20,000 because it’s a little bit smaller. There’s no glass. The flooring that will last for a long time. Now, it’s a still attractive unit. 

We have a client who we’re working with, and they said, “Look, we have a site for the homeless village, but people in the community are against it because they’re concerned of two things.” When their neighbors are going to be pulling up, they’re going to be driving through by this village, and a lot of these homeless villages are so unattractive that it’ll decrease the value. 

The second thing was a lot of these homeless villages are built without bathrooms. What do people do? They go outside and so they’re using our unit as a huge benefit to the community because when somebody is going to be driving by, they will not know that it is necessarily a homeless housing. If you can build these small bathrooms or bathrooms right next to the units, again, it’ll be much more of a long-term solution. 

It’s our mission, but we’re not a charity. We’re in this for profit. We want our investors and ourselves to do well. The advantage we have is we have technologies that makes it feasible to do quality job, quality housing. We got to get people off the streets. The problem with this is just, there is lack of affordable housing. There was a study done. Why are there less homeless in Cleveland versus LA? 

In Cleveland, the average rent for an apartment is $800. When it’s only $800, people can patch together. Family and government, you can patch that together. When you’re in LA, and the average cost of one bedroom is $2,500, you can’t patch it together. All it takes is to lose a job. I’m sure the young man who lives in the street right here, just down the block, seems like healthy, seems intelligent, but it doesn’t take much. If you lose the job and the housing is so expensive, you just have no options. The overall goal is we got to increase the supply of affordable housing and got to find a solution for this because we’re the best country in the world, and we cannot have so many of our citizens live on the street and say it’s okay. 

Getting To Know Gene

I totally agree. The thing you said, of course, is, and this is the lesson, just look for the solution. If you’re in business now or you’re about to be in business, look for the solution just as Gene has here. It’s a great lesson. Now, Gene, we’re going to switch gears here. I’m going to ask you a couple of questions and get to know you a little bit better as well. Here’s the first question. Who, in all of space and time, which means forever, would you like to have one hour to enjoy a walk in the park, a quick lunch, or an intense conversation with? 

My hero is Milton Friedman. When I first came to America, the first book I read was Free to Choose, and I was very fortunate to meet Milton a few years later. I had him autograph my book, but I wish I would have an hour with him to walk in the park. He was brilliant. He is very petite. He literally maybe was 5’1 or 5’2, but the brain power of somebody like this who have talked about market economy and how it can function, on a very theoretical level, came up with ideas about how to improve our educational system, how to make changes. 

People around the globe follow that. Now, again, if you follow it in just absolute a lot of things change. He wrote this book 40 years ago, but I’ve always been wondering, and I have this book on my bookshelf, how can someone come up with such clever ideas in pure theory? Over the years, many parts of the economy and different countries around the world have used his ideas on how free enterprise can be helpful for things like education and social welfare, and so on and so forth. That’s my hero. I spent a couple of minutes with him and his wife. I wish I would have had an hour. 

That’s a great story. I got to tell you it’s a lot of the great thinkers of the early century are still viable now. Their contribution is timeless. Milton Friedman is one of those people. I still see him quoted on television and on CNBC because the way he thought about the economy was universal. It wasn’t slanted in one direction. It wasn’t political. It wasn’t anything other than logic. I love that about him, too. Here’s the second question. Gene, this is the change the world question. Are you ready? 

Let’s see. 

What is it that you’re doing or would like to do that truly has the potential to literally change the world? 

It’s something we’ve talked about. I feel that having over half a million people who are homeless in this country is just wrong. We’ve got to find a solution. Having people lose their homes to wars to the climate crisis it’s not going to go away. It’s only going to get worse, unfortunately. We’ve seen acceleration in the last couple of years of conflicts and climate change. We need to go into figuring out what causes climate change. The reality is climate is changing. I think there is. I hope many others can put their make a difference. People got to have a nice-looking affordable housing. That’s my mission. I hope to be successful. 

Connect With Gene

I hope you do, too. That’s great. Gene, you did mention to me that you had something pretty special for our readers in this episode. First of all, one of the things we have not yet done is we haven’t shared the name of your website. Let me start by asking you what is the URL of your website. 

It’s AzurePrintedHomes.com. 

Great. Look, if you are interested in what Gene is doing and want to see the examples that he’s been talking about, the sites beautiful. There’s a lot of photography on the site. There’s even a way for you to pretty much put a deposit down for, I think it’s a few hundred dollars and secure a unit if you would be interested. 

There’s another opportunity that Gene told me about, which is that he’s created a We Funder account to help bring in some growth money, as it turns out. If you’re intrigued by the idea and want to get in at a fairly early stage, you can go to WeFunder.com/Azure. Again, all of these URLs will be on Gene’s homepage on his show page over at YourFirstThousandClients.com. Head over there. More importantly, go to AzurePrintedHomes.com and check out these beautiful units and see if there’s a place in your backyard for something like this, too. I wish I had a backyard. I live in a condo. I’d like to put one in a lobby, but they won’t let me. 

When people go to WeFunder.com/Azure, that’s our crowdfunding site. It’s not going to be open forever. It’s open now to friends and family, and it’ll become public next week. We’ll run the campaign just for a couple of months. It’s a very favorable valuation, and all disclosures are there. Our financial statements are there, our videos, address where people want to come out and see the units. 

Total just honest disclosures, and it’s open for investment, even unaccredited investors. Crowdfunding allows a democratic way to let people participate in companies like ours. Minimum lesson is $250, but now if you invest $1,000, you can get a $1,000 discount on a $20,000 unit. For a $1,000 investment, you can get $1,000 off. Or if you make a $5,000 investment, you can get a 5% discount on $100,000 in one bedroom. It’s like you can get a discount. Again, all these bonuses are on the website, so you can become our partner and get the word out. If you’re interested in one of the units, you can buy it and get your money back. It’s a win-win. 

Before anybody invests in anything, particularly a crowdfunding type of situation, it would be good to be able to get to know who’s running the company and what the values of the person are. That’s what we did in this episode, Gene. We did a deep dive on you, on the company, on your values, and why you’re here to do this. I’m glad that you took the time to spend with me in this episode. I appreciate your time. Readers, I’d head over there and just check out these beautiful units. They’re amazing. Gene, thank you for your time, and I look forward to our next conversation. 

Thank you so much, Mitch. Good luck to you. Bye-bye. 

 

Important links:

• Client Folio
• Gene Edelman– LinkedIn
• YourFirstThousandClients.com
• Big Sur California
• Free to Choose
• AzurePrintedHomes.com
• WeFunder.com/Azure