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Heal Yourself, Master Yourself: A Guide To Finding Your True Life Path From Janet Hogan

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Life can throw curveballs that can derail us from our true life path. Sometimes it’s the failure of a business or the loss of a loved one. So how do we get past these and get back on track? Mitch Russo is joined by today’s guest, co-founder of The 5th Door and life coach, Janet Hogan. Janet discusses the moment she felt she had lost everything and what she did to move forward. She also talks about her calling today: helping people transform their lives and mindsets and help them get back on their true life path. 

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Heal Yourself, Master Yourself: A Guide To Finding Your True Life Path From Janet Hogan 

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Now on to our guest and her incredible story. Living a seemingly charmed life, the confident and beautiful young woman who you are about to meet started her professional life as a punk rock model, gracing the cover of Dolly magazine. She was a movie actress, soap star, restaurant owner and Australia’s youngest ever ad writer to win a Lion at the Cannes Film Festival, but something was wrong. She discovered that even after creating real estate developments and all the trappings of wealth, she felt as if the old song is all there is. It was playing loudly in her head all the time. 

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In 2008, the global financial crisis took it all away. The wealth, the multimillion-dollar waterfront home, all six businesses and even threatened her marriage too. Now the music in her head played louder than ever. She knew it was time to finally listen and understand that the time had come to discover her true mission and purpose even after all she had already done. She immersed herself in spiritual teachings from every corner of the globe and after a decade of searching, she found what she calls her secret to life, to happiness, and to finally answer the question she had running all those years. She had discovered all there is and how anyone can access it. She is here to show us how. Welcome, Janet Hogan, to the show. 

Mitch, what an amazing intro. Thank you. I’m very happy to be here. 

I hope you are wondering who is that person I was talking about? 

I vaguely recognized it. 

Janet, it is a pleasure to have you here. We have been working together. In full disclosure, Janet is one of my favorite clients of all. She has an incredible suite of products to share. More importantly, she is a genuine individual who you are going to enjoy hearing from. Let’s go back to the beginning. Let’s start with how this all unrolled and unfolded for you? 

It started with my programming, which was probably similar for many of us back then. I’m a child of the ’80s. That was the decade when I started my life as an entrepreneur. My wiring told me that the harder I work, the more money I will make, and the more money I make, the happier I will be. It’s in that order. For me, success was all about hard work. If someone said to me, “Janet, how are you?” I would go, “I’m busy” as if that was a signal that I was a worthy human being. 

What happened was that I applied that mantra for the best part of my productive life. From the age of about 20 to my late 40s to finally had everything I thought I wanted, which was an amazing waterfront mansion with a private beach next door in Australia’s equivalent of the Caribbean. It was a tropical lifestyle. It would have been the envy of Richard Branson. I had the family, the children and the millions in the bank. I will never forget that moment when I was in our kayak and I was looking back at everything that we owned. Instead of this promised happiness, all I felt was emptiness. The problem with that was, I didn’t know what to do with that feeling, so I did what I would always do with my feelings, I buried it. 

I numbed myself out. I believe it was the universe that took action because I didn’t. The very next year, I was hit by the 2008 financial crisis. Over the space of about twelve months, I watched as everything that my husband and I had worked so hard for many years disappeared before my eyes. It was like death by a thousand cuts. The problem was because all my identity was tied up in what I owned. It was like I was watching myself disappear. My self-worth was tied up in my net worth. When the net worth disappeared, I’d become nothing as well. That’s when I had my huge lapse where I thought, “You know what, at this point, the world would be a better place without me.” 

Janet, that is such a familiar story. I hate to say it. No one likes to hear that their experiences are not unique but honestly, I had the same experience. I know many wealthy, smart, productive people who could have used your intro for theirs. It’s because it’s not the way you were raised. It’s the way we were raised. Most people reading this were raised by parents who valued being busy and productive as the reason to live. After all, we watched our parents struggle to support a household. Some really struggle. In my case, I watched my mom take menial jobs and couldn’t even pay for basic food during her divorce from my dad. For me, I crafted some of those same conclusions as well. I did come up with one different answer. The answer that I came up with is I never ever want to be in the position of my mom and my sister did too. We never spoke to each other about it until many decades later, when we both realized that our drive to be successful was not to end up as our mom did. We did what you did and felt just as you had. I guess the question here is, why? 

Why are we programmed that way or why did I have that feeling? 

Why did we think that it was okay to have that feeling of emptiness and convince ourselves that we were happy? 

Let’s do a real rewind and go back even further. Typically between the ages of 0 to 7 something happened to us. In many cases, many people can’t remember what that event was. Maybe it was a set of circumstances, just a general environment that they grew up in, which created a dissonance between who we felt ourselves to be and how our experience in the world. We know that as a childhood wound. Who we felt ourselves to be? Let’s say in its simplest form. It was just loving energy and our key desire at that age is to feel safe and wanted. It only takes a minute event. It doesn’t have to be something dramatic like some terrible form of abuse. 

It can be something that seems quite trivial particularly to an adult. A minute of an event that challenges that belief that we are loved and that we are safe. It’s our first experience with something that feels way too dark and difficult for us to process. We call that shame and/or guilt, and that is hardwired into every one of us. The problem with shame, the very nature of it is that we think we are the only ones feeling ashamed. It’s a very private isolating feeling, which is so hard for us to process at that age. What happens is we create a story around it. We wrap it in a story that somehow makes sense of why we might feel bad. 

To share my story as an example, I was a very overindulged, only-child for the first four years of my life. When my parents brought my baby sister homeI noticed in the room that all the eyes went from me to herAt that moment I felt, I’m not enough to make mommy and daddy happy. I also thought they bought my sister from a shop. Being the creative little bugger that I was, the next time we went shopping, six weeks later, I found all these price tags on these appliances and carefully stuck them over my baby sister’s forehead hoping someone would buy her back. When we got home, my mom was furious. She pulled out the wooden spoon, which was the implement of torture at the time and chased me around the house with it yelling, “You naughty girl.” 

Those words themselves are pretty harmless, but when they’re attached to an emotion that we can’t deal with like in this situationextreme anger. Therefore, you are not good enough or there is something wrong with you. We wrapped that in this story or this belief that helps us make sense of that feeling. In my case, it was I am naughty. I wasn’t aware of that. This is all happening at a level that is beyond our awareness. I call this story the core destructive beliefs. While we all have many limiting beliefs, probably they number in the hundreds, we can funnel all of these down to one core destructive belief. This belief will drive us until the day we die unless we bring it to the surface. I think we see this a lot in the entrepreneurial spaceThe power of this belief is because it’s attached to shame, it becomes the reason why there is something wrong with us. At a level that we are not aware of, we try to overcompensate and to make up for that. 

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True Life Path: We jump to another identity that it’s not true either, which is what we call the overcompensating self and this is where we try to outperform our shame.


As much as this belief is not true, it’s not our true identity, we jumped to another identity that it’s not true either, which is what we call the overcompensating self. This is where we try to outperform our shame. We do that by usually keeping ourselves very busy and trying to be a noble worthwhile responsible person like what happened to me. What is a naughty girl scared of? She is scared of getting into trouble. How does she not get into trouble? She becomes a teacher’s pet, then that is the behavior pattern that is ingrained as a child in me. What happens is as an adult, that transfers to wanting to be the perfect mother, wife and career woman. We create our own prison, essentially. 

We certainly do. For you, it was the spoon. For me, it was a belt in my father’s closet. In front of me, he pulled it out and wrote my name on the belt, and then informed me that the belt would not be ever worn again. It was used only to beat me. If I acted up, he would go get his belt and he would beat me. The trauma of being beaten by a belt by your father, there is an element of that that is fully conscious. I fully understood and remembered it. The effect of it and the trauma from that filter into the unconscious and unevaluated section of our brains, never to be processed, but always to reign king over the way you act and the things you do, so it’s a great insight. The problem is, how do you find it? You and I both were out of our 20s and a little bit past our 30s. The question is as we lived with it this long and we have compensated for it all these years, why is it important to find it now? How does it affect us if we don’t? 

If we don’t find it, we pretty much condemn ourselves for living in this hamster wheel or what I call a crazy loop until we take our last breath. It’s not something that we can solve consciously or using our intellect. We can’t. It doesn’t matter how many positive affirmations we repeat to ourselves, how many exercises we do to try to make ourselves feel better about ourselves. When something is deep-buried, it is the root cause of the problem. If we don’t address that, it’s like putting some plaster tape over a wound, when the wound lies much deeper. All we have to do, and it’s incredibly simple when I describe it like this, is apply awareness to the belief. In other words, we have to bring what is in our unconscious mind to our conscious mind.  

There is a wonderful saying which is, “When you are in it, you can’t see it, but the moment you see it, you are not in it.” You have to bring it to the surface and see it, then you go, “I see you for the imposter that you are.” Only then can we accept the truth of who we are. Otherwise, we are constantly going to be engaged in this tug of war. It’s like the little cartoon characters, the saint on one shoulder and the devil on the other. That is quite true. We are engaged in this tug of war between these two false identities. Until we call them out, we will condemn ourselves to be living in that constant inner battle of feeling torn. We have to bring them to the surface and there is a way to do that, but it’s not by trying to think our way out of the problem. 

A lot of people in our audience have been very successful, made millions, built companies and run companies. Why should anybody care about this if it’s not affecting their productivity or their wealth or their ability to do complicated and sophisticated things? 

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There is a point and maybe not everyone gets to this point, but I know I certainly did. I work with people who have got to this point, where you have done all the right things you thought. You took all the right steps. You worked hard accordingly. You have got all these assets and notches on the financial bedpost to prove how successful you are. You have done all of that but it’s this void. It doesn’t matter how hard you work, nothing can seem to fill this void. At some point, that void speaks too loud enough that you have no choice but to do something about it. It’s arriving at that point. In my case, I was aware of that void but I didn’t do anything about it. 

I do believe that if you become conscious of it and you don’t do anything about it, you will get beaten up until you are forced to do something about it. Some people say that you don’t have to have a crash. You don’t have to have a crisis. I know in my case, I did. Most of the people I have worked with, if they are going to be honest with themselves, they have felt something is missingI have to find out what it is because it’s waking me up in the middle of the night. I work with a lot of women entrepreneurs who have worked very hard, but it might have been at the cost of their relationship. They find themselves divorced, widowed or single, and waking up in the middle of the night going, “I have worked so hard all my life and I’ve proven to myself that I can do it, but what if I end up alone? What if it’s just me?”  

Equally, the entrepreneur who maybe has hit 50 and going, “I’ve made it.” The normal follow-through would be, ”In ten years’ time, I should probably be thinking of retiring,” but that idea that scares the hell out of them because “What do I do when I stop working? At that point, we have to face ourselves and go, “How would I be living with myself? What would that be like?” It’s listening to that inner voice. Not everyone hears it but a lot of people, particularly in the entrepreneurial space, and I’m a reformed workaholic. There are a few people like me out there as well. We do have our day of reckoning. 

Janet, this is interesting and this is a business show, so one of the things I want to talk about is how this affects people and their ability to grow their company? You’ve grown many companies. There is no doubt that you are an accomplished businesswoman with great success. Where is the trap door that people fall through when they have these feelings that prevent them from maybe even doing more with their lives than they are doing now? 

It’s at that point of burnout. It’s when you have fronted up to the office every day, have done the right thing, and you feel that you can’t do it anymore. Some people describe it to me as I have lost the passion for what I do. Once I was motivated, I could follow that goal list, I would stick it up and follow it. I had achieved those goals and ticking those boxes was enough for me to feel that I was on the right path. There seems a point where most of us get to where suddenly that doesn’t float our boat anymore. 

I’m going to transition this a little bit here because we like to interview smart people, but we also like them to teach us and inform us. You are sharing your story, which is great. I want to know how to find that core destructive belief. I want to know what I could do about it. In fact, you and I have a little something planned because I already did one of the exercises that you offer to your clients as well. Help all of us understand what you can do to find that core destructive belief, heal that wound, and move past it into a higher state of being. 

The core destructive belief is there to be discovered and it lies in every one of us. It is a matter of following a process. What I did was reverse engineer the problem with this core destructive belief. How it shows up in most people is when you lose that passion, the idea of moving to a better life usually brings up some fear. That fear, imposter syndrome, self-doubt, do I even deserve to be happy, creates inaction. I thought inaction seems to be the problem. How do we reverse engineer inaction? It all came back to the childhood wound. The inaction and the pain of our past and the shame that’s in there creates in us a sense of lack. 

The first step is to address what it is that’s missing from our life. I’m not talking about a bigger house or more money in the bank. It’s nothing material. It’s on a different level. I have developed this way of assessing, the quiz. It asked the question, what type of heartfelt entrepreneur are you? In doing this process, which only takes a few minutes. I have a background in advertising and what it taught me was that deep transformation and permanent shifts don’t have to take months. They can happen very quickly. In fact, they happen instantaneously. You just have to know the right steps. We start with the symptom, which is the lack. What is it that we are lacking in our life? I remember, Mitch, I got you to do that exercise. It was quite interesting, the results that came from that exercise. 

Tell me more about that. After all, you have had thousands of people take that quiz. 

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True Life Path: We’re engaged in this tug of war between these two false identities until we call them out, we will condemn ourselves to be living in that constant inner battle that feeling of being torn.


Yes and no two people have come up with the same answers. I know from my days in advertising, the terror of being confronted by a blank page or the instruction, “Janet, come up with an idea as long as it’s a great one.” The blank page is not the way to go. We can’t try and dream up what it is that we need. Instead, what I provide is a series of options. When you bring that down to the top three of your core needs, Mitch, it was a beautiful combination. The first one was mastery, that was the key. Mastery being the key core need and then the bottom two, the second and the third, it’s shaped like a triangle, where intimacy and beauty. When you look at those, they looked like three quite separate mead, but they work together in a way. If you like, we could explore that a little bit. I can illustrate how those work in your case, how they start to expand youand ideally how they would bring to the fore your core destructive belief. 

I want to do that but I want to share though with everybody else what the process was. In this little assessment, I was presented with a list of things to choose from. What we were doing is it seemed as if we were whittling down the list based on the questions you asked, until eventually there were three left. It took less than five minutes. I think it took about four minutes in total to get to those three things. Those three words, for some reason, made no sense to me but to youthey unveiled a wealth of information that I had no idea about. You shared what my three words were, now share what they meant and why they were important? 

When we look at those three words, the top one mastery is your core need. That is the final destination and that is what I call your North Star. I would even go so far as to say, it’s your ultimate why. It’s why you do what you do. The two bottom ones describe the journey. How do you get to mastery? Let’s look at those two, intimacy and beauty. I have had the great privilege to work with you as a client and what I love about working with you is you are the opposite of me. I simplify things down to a point that can annoy some people. They say that is too simple. You, however, dive into the complexity of things. You create these amazing systems that someone like me needs. 

In that complexity, you become intimately familiar with whatever it is. Let’s talk about the business context. Let’s say someone in the business. You have this gift of being able to assess where they are and by creating a system, helps them get to where they want to get to. If you did not have intimacy or that ability to read at a fine level and get profoundly into what someone does, you couldn’t do what you do. That is something that has come up to you as a need. Perhaps what it’s suggesting is that you could create intimacy in other aspects of your life as well. You have mastered this in the business context. I will speak to that context for now. 

Intimacy is the first thing. The second thing is beauty. What is interesting is when you get to know someone or something at an intimate level, you start to understand the truth of that business or that person or whatever the context is. When you get to the truth of something or someone, you start to see the beauty in that. Beauty is what lights you up and what you want more of in your life clearly because that’s come up as a need. You can do that very literally through your hobby. I have seen the photos that you have taken of landscapes and they are truly beautiful. I can see that’s what builds you when you bring that into your life. Equally, beauty can be translated across many levels and equally applies to business. When we find what it is that we love doing that we are naturally wired to do, that is the truth of us. 

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When we can apply energy to that, that is where we create beauty in the marketplace because we are showing up as ourselves, not as a hardworking, self-sacrificing workaholic. What is being described here is the journey through intimacy and beauty, I achieve mastery. In your case, you are able to master whatever it is you do, whether it’s taking photos, creating a system to make life easier for a client. The magical aspect of this is that what you bring to your own life, the core needs that you satisfy for yourself is ultimately the gift that you have to give to others. By following your true path, you not only achieve mastery for yourself, but that is what you are offering others for them to gain mastery over what they do. 

That resonates so nicely but I want to expose what I think might be the dark side of your process, at least in my case. Here is what I mean by the dark side. Are you saying that from your assessment that you believe that I require mastery to be happy? 

Ultimately, yes because mastery and these other needs are satisfying a yearning in your soul. When we say, “I want to be happy,” normally what we do is we try and think our way to a solution. Typically, it’s like, “I want more money in the bank.” All we are doing there is reaching outside of ourselves, finding an external solution to what is an internal problem. What you have done in this exercise in a few short minutes is you have gone into yourself. Part of this exercise is getting grounded, taking some breaths, getting into your deep self. You have all the answers within you already. All this is doing is bringing them to the surface. Your inner self, your higher self, your inner knowing is saying to you, “Mitch, this is your path. This is what you need and if you follow this path, you will be more than happy. You will be fulfilled.” 

I would change your analysis by a little bit. Here is why, because I don’t achieve mastery in all the things that I do. It’s the pathway to mastery that makes me happy. In other words, if I can’t be learning or refining or growing as a human being, or I can’t feel love from another person or the affinity that I do feel from my clients, then I don’t feel that fulfillment. It’s not the mastery. It’s the journey towards mastery for me, not for anybody else but for me, that brings me that level of fulfillment. 

I think that’s a good reframe and thank you for that because you are right. It is the journey. I think this is where people become confused and have that feeling of, I’m lost. What does the next stage of my life look like? They don’t have that North Star. While you have that and you know that is where going, it’s not an absolute. You will never necessarily reach that star. While it’s burning brightly for you, that is enough. It gives you a path. 

That is quite useful. Now, tell me how what you just described exposes my core destructive belief? 

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True Life Path: The inaction and the pain of our past and the shame that’s in there creates in us a sense of lack.


I mentioned that it was reverse engineering. We now know what you want. We now know what your bright future looks like, your path. Through intimacy and beauty, I achieve mastery, that’s the formula. It’s the how plus the why, so we’ve got that. Now we have to go, “How do we make sure that happens?” In your case, Mitch, I feel that you are very progressed along that path, but many people I work with don’t have those three things at all in their life. We have to ask the question, “We know what you want, why don’t you have them already?” We have to do a 180-degree flip and we go, “That’s your North Star. Let’s say it’s mastery. Now let’s go to the opposite of that.” Imagine that you don’t know mastery at all, it’s out there on your right-hand side. Now let’s turn to the left 180-degree flip. What’s the opposite of mastery for you? 


There you go. What we do is a visualization. We go, “Let’s dive into failure,” because now we are getting into the territory of the core fear. Once the core fear has been created by the core destructive beliefs. Now that we are aware of what our core fear is, we dive into that. I probably can’t do it on this interview because it would take too long, but we create for you the idea of what that fear landscape looks like, a place where you are physically at. What is that? When we do that, this is where I start to work with your shadow self. I talked to your shadow as a part of you. I say, “Shadow, thanks for showing up. I’m glad that you could join us. Are you okay to work with us knowing that this won’t diminish your demeanor in any way?” I have never had anyone shadow say no, then together, your shadow and I explore this landscape and look at the emotions that occupied that landscape. From there, we have created context around, “Now let’s go into the past. 

If you have been reading so far, welcome to my therapy session, everybody. This has been quite interesting. Janet and I had a less intro intimate discussion about this before. This is deeper than what we talked about last time, which I love. I’m glad that you are reading as well because I want you to be able to have access to this process. Janet, this helped me reframe some of the things that I have been through in my life when you told me about it. I’m not going to get into all the details of what that was, but I have had my share of failures of broken marriages. As you know, I have had drug addiction in my history. I was addicted to hard narcotics as my readers know if they have read for a while. 

These destructive beliefs are real and they act upon us in an unconscious way. The other thing that they do is rob us of our cognitive abilities. The reason I say that is because when you have a mind that is always scanning for potential danger, that mind is using up CPU cycles. Instead of completely freeing all of your cognitive abilities to be in the present time with you, instead of having hundreds of these little programs, running, searching for what possibly could be the danger in your life. I don’t want to go any deeper than that. This whole process has been fascinating for me. This is why I love being a coach because I get to learn about other people’s businesses and other people’s craft that benefits me in as much many ways as it benefits my clients, which is incredible. 

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We are going to transition right now. Janet, in this next part of the show. These are the questions that I love to ask because they help us connect a little bit deeper and expose in some ways to the belief system of some of those who we interview. Here is the first question. I bet you are going to enjoy answering it because I know I will enjoy hearing it. Who in all of space and time would you like to have one hour to enjoy a walk in the park, a quick lunch or an intimate conversation with? 

The first name that pops into my mind is Carl Jung because as we were talking before going into that unconscious self, I love it. That is the happy space that I love exploring. He was the master of that, but actually, it would be my father. Sometimes, things that happen are passed down to us genetically. I inherited that gene of hard work and self-sacrifice that he did from his father and his father before him. My dad was a brilliant surgeon. He granted the first bionic ear in a baby in the world. He was a great success. He loved his work but the moment he stopped working, he started dying. He would spend his days on the couch, reading old medical gazettes and lost. 

We lost him three years later. He died prematurely. I think probably twenty years before he should have. I hadn’t created this program at that point. I didn’t know who my dad was when he died. Twenty years later, we still ask questions about him. Why did he do this? Why did he do that? I would love to have an hour now that I have the capacity to talk at a profound level because I’ve done this work on myself. When you do it on yourself, then you can interact so much more profoundly in a much more satisfying way with others. 

I would love to ask him the questions that I never asked him when he was alive because I think as parents also, we talk about inheritance and leaving something behind for our kids. The money is not important at the end of the day. What I feel is important is the emotional legacy. He died a mystery to me, so I feel that emotional legacy is missing. That is what I yearn for, to know about him, what made him tick and who he was. That would fill an enormous void for me knowing that. 

I feel the same way. My dad was in many ways a mystery to my sister and me as well. It would be great to spend that hour with your dad. I also want to make an unrelated comment because you mentioned Carl Jung. When we were kids, I was barely fourteen. My sister was twelve. My mom sat us down in the kitchen. She opened up a book and read a paragraph. She looked at my sister and me and said, “Did you realize that you have lived before?” The two of us looked at each other like, “Mom is going a little crazy here. What does she mean?” 

She went on to say that, “We as beings exist and can exist outside of these physical bodies and have existed in many other physical bodies.“ I’m sitting there going like, “What?” My sister started to cry and she’s, “I don’t want another body. I like the one I have.” My mother had to comfort her and say, “Don’t worry, honey, no one is taking your body away, but I want you to know that this is not the beginning or the end of you. This is part of your journey.” Now, a twelve-year-old and a fourteen-year-old hearing these words when our normal concerns are, “Where is the key to my roller skates? Which boy in school likes me?” for my sister’s perspective. This became a door that opened. It wasn’t the fifth door, but it was a door that opened for us. 

That led to a lifetime spiritual journey that my sister and I took independently. Until later in life, we came back together and had these very beautiful and deep discussions about our lives and about how that moment in time changed us forever. These moments, as you described them, can have an enormous impact. I love the fact that you named your dad and Carl Jung because that gave me the chance to tell my little story. The next question, I’m going to ask it anyway, but I already know the answer. I think I do but you never know. This is called the change the world question. What is it that you were doing or would like to do that truly has the potential to literally change the world? 

I love that question. Thank you. If you would ask that question to me five years ago, I would say I have no idea. What I would love to do is what I’m doing now. It’s driven by a vision of taking the situation that so many of us find ourselves in right now where it’s all work. We sacrifice all our lives for some paper tiger goal that never actually eventuates. That happiness comes at the back of all that self-sacrifice. It sets us with our happiness. My vision is to see the world transformed from a place where it’s all work and no play to where play and work are inseparable, and to where we spend as many living moments in our day as we can doing what we love. Not from a selfish perspective, but from a self-fulfilling perspective so that we are making an active and positive contribution to the lives of others. That I see is the ultimate win-win and a world that would be a much happier place. 

If you are reading what we discuss about this assessment, this quiz, this survey of Janet. She agreed to allow you to take this survey and you will get an interpretation of your answers as well. Janet, where can people go to access the assessment? 

FTC 251 Janet Hogan | True Life Path
True Life Path: If you like to prove how successful you are and you’ve done all of that, then it’s void that it doesn’t matter how hard you work, nothing can seem to fill this void.


The easiest place is my website, JanetHogan.com. It’s right there on the home page. Look for the caption, What type of heartfelt entrepreneur are you? That is going to direct you, if you are not there already, to the path that you take in order to not only be productive. I’m not saying don’t keep working hard. Hard work is beautiful but it needs to be hard work that fulfills you. That will help you define the path for you to take to achieve success on a whole new level. 

I would call that resonance. When you find that the feelings that match the actions you resonate with, and that resonance brings us peace and joy. Janet, you have been such a pleasure to chat with. It feels like we have spent many hours together, and yet even now, I got to know you even better. Thank you for showing up and playing all out. I can’t wait until we get a chance to talk again soon. 

Thank you so much, Mitch. Thank you to all of those of you who are reading. Thank you. 

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About Janet Hogan

FTC 251 Janet Hogan | True Life PathBy age 22, Janet had graduated with a BA in Communications, become a punk rock model, Dolly cover girl, movie actress, soapie star, restaurant owner, radio DJ, and Australia’s youngest ever copywriter to win a Lion at Cannes. She went on to become co-founder of Oddfellows ad agency, then moved to north Queensland to create a multi-million dollar waterfront property development. At 48, she had it all… on the outside. But something was seriously wrong. It took losing it all for her to wake up.


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