Crypto Coin Adoption: Discussing The Merits Of Cryptocurrency With Joel Clelland

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With the many changes in today’s rapidly growing and evolving digital economy, one event has stood out: the rise of the crypto coin. Centric is unique among cryptocurrencies with its self-regulatory features and its use of two coins to stabilize its economy. In this episode, Mitch Russo talks to the CEO of Centric Foundation, Joel Clelland, about the burgeoning digital economy. Joel shares his insights on where the crypto space is headed from here and why projects like Centric are the way of the future for crypto. Tune in for more great insights about the crypto world in this special episode with Joel.

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Crypto Coin Adoption: Discussing The Merits Of Cryptocurrency With Joel Clelland

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Over the years, my guest has been involved in many different corporate efforts, both as a leader in a diverse range of companies, but he knew that something was missing. He kept searching for that missing piece like many of us tend to do. He discovered something like many of us did. He discovered crypto and then he became particularly enamored with a particular coin. He made a connection with the company and they did something amazing.

They offered him his dream job, the President and CEO of the company for this new coin. He is with us to tell us all about how a new coin is brought into the ecosystem, how it’s scaled and what the business models look like. More importantly, no matter whether it’s a coin, software product or shoe store, everything you’re about to read is useful in your own world and market. Welcome, Joel Clelland to the show.

Thank you, Mitch. I’m glad to be here.

It’s my pleasure. This has been an exciting journey. You and I have been on a little journey before the show. Joel is getting me set up so that I can use his coin in my own transactions and I’m very excited about it. Before we go there, give us some background. How did this all get started for you?

I was in traditional financial services for a number of years and I also have a background in education. One of the things that you and I have both seen in the financial space is that there’s somewhat of a pushback from traditional finance with regard to crypto. Some companies don’t even touch it with a 10-foot pole due to compliance.

A lot of people, depending on what licenses they hold, they can’t even talk about it with their clients. I have always wanted to be vulnerable with my clients, share everything with them and fully disclose to them what’s available to them in the market. This is something that’s emerging and it has been for a little over a decade now. Now that I have moved into this 21st-century financial sector, I can have those conversations.

It’s similar to the cannabis business. People have been smoking weed for 5,000 years or longer. Who knows? It became the gateway drug to hard narcotics in the ’50s and ’60s. It was banned and all that. Now, it’s finally starting to come back into adoption slowly and even becoming mainstream for some people as well. With crypto, the adoption rate has been a little bit more aggressive, particularly in 2020.

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Crypto Coin: One of the things that we have seen in the financial space is pushback from traditional finance regarding crypto. Some companies don’t even touch it with a 10-foot pole due to compliance.


The government said, “We’re going to tax the hell out of it, but we’re not going to ban it. We are the government. Our job is to extract money from our citizens. Crypto is great. We can extract even more money because you’re going to make a lot of profit. That means you’re going to be sharing a lot of that profit with us, Uncle Sam and his merry gang of comrades.” The bottom line here is that we now have this new world of crypto. You are brought on board to take what I’ll call an unknown coin and turn it into a true financial investment/instrument. How do you do that?

The wonderful part about this is I wasn’t the first. I had a predecessor and founding team that developed and designed Centric. When I came aboard, it was to become a mouthpiece. One of the things that we have seen in the space is that most projects are not very forward-facing. It’s hard to get to know the team. Most of the CEOs are pretty quiet. They are known to an extent inside the industry but not outside the industry.

One of the things we wanted to do is we wanted to flip that 180 degrees, become more forward-facing and focus on education. People like CZ from Binance said that most of the world is still not in crypto. It’s because they don’t understand it. It’s new and an adoption. Although it is more aggressive these days, we still have a few years before it’s fully mainstream.

I don’t disagree. There are a lot of coins out there. Pick the numbers. Are there 20,000 coins?

It’s not quite. It’s over 14,000 for sure.

I bought a silly coin called SHIB. I didn’t put much money into it, maybe a couple of thousand dollars. That little investment has grown to almost $18,000 in a short period of time. If you’re wondering what the power of crypto is for unknown coins, there’s an example. Like many Americans, I have a tiny share of Ethereum and Bitcoin as well compared to others.

The bottom line is that everybody should have some of the top ten cryptos in their portfolio. That’s so mainstream that there are now ETFs and financial instruments for crypto on the stock market. That’s how we know it’s pretty much mainstream. That’s how we know it will never be banned. That’s how we know that it gets deeper into the fabric of the economy because it has now permeated the investment world too.

I believe it was MassMutual. They dropped $100 million into Bitcoin. They are a $1 trillion company. When they did that, a conservative mutual insurance company, I thought, “The tide is changing.”

For all the people who said, “Those people are crazy. They are being irresponsible,” now looking backward and scaling up, what does that $100 million worth? It’s probably worth 3, 4 or 5 times that. None of their other assets have performed anywhere near that level. I remember my dad taught me a very interesting thing. He goes, “Don’t tell me about the profit you made before you sold. Tell me about the profit you made after you sold.”

I used to call my dad and say, “Dad, that stock we were talking about is up 13%.” He goes, “So what?” I said, “I could sell it and keep 13%.” He goes, “You could. Is that what you’re going to do?” I would say, “I don’t know. Maybe I should.” He goes, “Maybe you should hold it too.” Dad’s advice back then still holds. I like to do two things. I like to buy crypto and hold it, but then you are introducing this whole other topic to me.

Others are familiar with it in all that stuff. What I want to know now is you had this new coin. You walked into this company. You’re now the President of the company. How do you scale that coin? How do you find people to adopt it? How do you get people to say, “We’re going to make it part of our ecosystem and, in turn, make it more valuable?”

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There are a handful of things that we’re doing and that projects are doing. We’re getting out into the community and talking about the coin, whether that’s doing marketing events or which is hit-and-miss, is getting influencers talking about your coin. I have done interviews with you. One of the things that are characteristic of the industry is developing a strong community.

When I came aboard in March 2021, we were around 20,000 holders globally. Now, we’re north of 56,000. We’re still scaling globally. The two social platforms that are the most active these days are Twitter and Telegram. For people who are either into crypto or want to learn about projects, connecting with those groups in both Telegram and Twitter is invaluable.

That’s one aspect of it. You make it more popular and get more people to talk about it. Hopefully, somebody will want to acquire some of those coins as well, but there’s a different strategy that we chatted about privately that I would like to hear more about. How do we get this into the financial ecosystem?

It’s two-fold. Money should be transactional. Otherwise, it’s not money. It’s just an investment or asset like we were talking about. Centric has gotten onboarded with three different cryptocurrency payment gateways. We have several companies that are already accepting Centric through the payment gateways. For companies, whether eComm or traditional commerce, that have WordPress websites, you can accept Centric. That’s one side of it.

The other side of it is the retail investor. The retail investor has to be able to get your coin or token. If they can’t get it from a trusted exchange, you’re dead in the water. When we went live on exchange in July 2020 and started adding more exchanges, that was something that lit a fire onto the community because now they had more places where they could access Centric.

Let’s go back a step. In order for anybody who has a coin to get it to be traded, they need a platform. They could create their own platform or exchange, but the best way to do it is to get it on an existing platform that already has customers. For example, if you have MetaMask as your wallet and you can’t buy a coin in your current wallet, then you say, “I have to go set up a whole other wallet now. I have to sign up for another service. I have another security code to keep track of and all this other stuff.”

If it turns out that you have a wallet on Coinbase, MetaMask, Binance or any of these places and your coin is now there, then it’s two clicks away in your account. There are more passwords, more memory and all these other things that you have to do. There’s this other thing and this is part of what makes Bitcoin so special. I want to regress and talk a little bit about the “Bitcoin revolution.”

Anyone reading the blog might have read the name, Michael Saylor. He is the CEO of MicroStrategy. It’s a nice little $100 million software company that made a decision in 2019 that he was going to take a percentage of his company’s funds and invest them in Bitcoin. He did something interesting. He said, “Anybody who doesn’t want to be part of MicroStrategy because of this decision, I am going to wait 30 days before I do it so you could leave. You could sell your stock and leave.” Some people did, but then he went on and started to invest in Bitcoin.

Behind the scenes in every different way possible, he invested more into Bitcoin. He even took out a $1 billion loan to buy Bitcoin. Some people will say, “That’s a pretty stupid, risky thing to do,” but he had criteria for doing it. This was before he made his first purchase in 2019. These were the three things that he cared about. The three questions he would ask are, “Can it be hacked? Can it be stolen? Will it be banned?” He waited until he could say no to hacking and stealing, “Will it be banned? No, it will not be banned.”

He got to the point where he was able to now make a sound decision. The first Bitcoin he purchased was maybe $11,000 or $13,000. It wasn’t like he got in at the bottom or something like that. What he has done since is he has shared his vision for Bitcoin. One of the most important things about Bitcoin is two things. 1) It’s decentralized. 2) It’s scarce.

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Crypto Coin: The most important thing about Bitcoin is two things. Number one, it’s decentralized, and number two, it’s scarce.


Coins that have an unlimited number of coins have no scarcity. You can make coffee beans a currency if you want. Coins that have scarcity are more valuable because ultimately, the fewer they are or the more people that hold them, the more valuable each coin becomes. You knew this when you came into the company and you addressed this with an interesting business model. Can you describe that?

We have two tokens instead of one because we believe that the largest issue with global adoption is volatility. If crypto is to be an instrument used to be a medium of exchange, we got to solve it. What Centric is working to do is to use two tokens to create that stability, one that’s traded and one that’s not.

You have an interesting system. You have stated publicly that if your token reaches $1, something happens.

We call that protocol consensus. When our traded token, Centric Swap CNS, reaches $1 and stabilizes, we believe that there’s a possibility that there will be a period of time where it moves up and down as it’s doing now. When it stabilizes at $1, we’ll be at what we call protocol consensus. That’s going to unlock all the Layer-2 utility of the second token and thereby creating an entire Centric economy.

Does the price of $1 mean that the coin has a limited distribution at that point?

It would be unlimited. The fact that we picked up another cryptocurrency payment gateway that’s utilizing the traded token leads us to believe that’s the case. It has unlimited uses, not just for personal use and investment use, but in the economy and even for governments. Governments are getting to the point where they want to utilize blockchain technology only. There are a couple of countries in the world that are already moving that way.

Why would your coin be more successful than another altcoin because of the way you have designed the business model?

There are two things to add to that. One is that during this phase, we call this the adoption phase. Centric is truly an investment opportunity because Centric Swap CNS is trading for less than $1. It’s on sale. It’s designed to be $1. The in-network token, for users who take advantage of it, which most of them do, provides hourly yields. It’s possible to not just take advantage of the growth of Centric Swap, but if it’s parked inside of Centric Rise, they are receiving hourly yields that never stop.

What you’re doing is you are modeling, in a sense, the economic system of the United States. It used to be this way. Now, it doesn’t work that way anymore. I’m sure you remember when it did. You put money in the bank. The bank gets to loan out your money so they can make money on your money and pays you a usage fee called interest. They usually pay that monthly at that time.

In your world, you are asking your users to lend us your crypto and then we will do something with it. Whatever we do with it, it will be so valuable that we’ll be able to pay you interest on an hourly basis. That makes a lot of sense and that’s pretty cool, but the question is, is this a Ponzi scheme? In other words, what are you doing with that crypto once you borrow it from your users that would make you this extra money to pay this amount?

The Ponzi scheme question is a good one because some projects maybe fit that bill. What is a Ponzi scheme? It’s promising nothing for something. You give us this money and we give whatever it is, X, Y or Z. In the Centric system, the actual protocol itself has been running flawlessly since February of 2020, every single hour giving users money.

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One of the things we talked about was this is unique staking because in the world of staking, most of the time, users have to lock up their tokens for a period of time to gain the rewards. There are no lockups in the Centric ecosystem. Users can move their money in and out of the ecosystem on demand. That’s a good selling point and it has been working.

In my understanding of a Ponzi scheme is that new investors, money is used to pay old investors their so-called interest.

That would be more like a staking platform, which Centric protocol is not. There are some platforms that are actual staking platforms. One of our partners has a platform that they are developing a proof of hold concept, where it works similarly to that. Whoever holds the longest gains the most, that’s not the concept in Centric protocol.

In your system, when I lend the company my coins and they pay me interest on my coins, what is the company doing with those coins to earn enough money to pay me that interest?

This might be a good time to enter the concepts of decentralized and centralized because users of the Centric network can take their tokens and hold them anywhere that’s compatible with Centric. Do we like using the native Centric Wallet? Yes, but users don’t have to use the native Centric Wallet and they can gain Centric Rise hourly yields anywhere. They could have their CNR staked in a platform other than a Centric platform. They could be holding their CNR tokens in a compatible wallet that’s not a Centric Wallet and they are still enjoying those hourly yields. In a sense, it’s not lending the tokens to Centric. It’s deciding, “I want to capitalize on the Centric network and so I’m putting some money here.”

Let’s bring this back down and I hope you appreciate me trying to simplify this. Here is where I’m going. Let’s say there was a US dollar token. For all effective purposes, the way the government would explain it to the population is that, “You have paper dollars. Paper dollars are obsolete. What we want to do now is give you electronic dollars. We’re going to call that you USD as the symbol and that’s our coin. It will work exactly like the dollar would normally work.”

Digital dollars don’t go up and down in value. Natively, they may go down in value because of inflation, distribution and excess amounts. Now I say, “There’s this company that says if I deposit my US dollars there, they will pay me every hour interest on my US dollars. That means that if I put in $1,000 into this account, I may get $1 an hour by having it in that account.” I’m the bank. I’ll say, “Everybody, put your money here. I’ll give you $1 an hour.” I have 50,000 people putting their $1,000 into my new bank. I have to come up with $50,000 an hour to pay them. How do I do that?

The great thing is that’s all based on what’s happening in the market. There’s a relationship between the in-network token and then the traded token, which is valued by the market. We use the term immutable. Immutable means that it can’t be changed. Centric Foundation calculates these price blocks or hourly yields every single month and then deploys them to the blockchain where they can’t be edited. Centric Foundation has its tokens, which we use for operating expenses.

Centric Foundation’s primary focus is the global adoption of Centric as a currency. The users, in a fully decentralized way, can choose to move their tokens in and out of the network on demand. The protocol is paying them if they take advantage of it. The other caveat is that to get away from US dollars to get back to the token side is that they are yielding more Centric tokens every year.

In our physical world, the money would have to go to work to pay me the interest. Banks take that money and that gets called fractional lending. They take your $1 and lend it ten times to people.

FTC Joel Clelland | Crypto Coin
Crypto Coin: There are people all throughout the world who don’t have access to traditional finance, we call them the unbanked, and some numbers are as high as 2 billion people globally.


They can get that from the central banks.

In your world, the interest is paid from the reserves of the company for the purposes of getting more people to use it. It’s not as if any work is being done by the coins themselves. The protocol says, “If you stake or lend your coins to the organization, we will then make new coins and give them to you.”

The protocol will make new coins.

That’s what I mean by day.

The day is more the system.

We get into the issue of scarcity. Why would the price go up if there is no scarcity?

With every hour of growth, there’s also an hourly burn. The other side of the economic model is that to keep the ecosystem balanced, a certain portion of Centric Rise CNR tokens that are being held in quarantine, not in user wallets, is burned away equal to the amount of the growth in all CNR tokens globally.

Is that wallet or reserve a fixed amount?

It’s yes and no. Every month, the yield for the month for Centric Rise CNR is hard-coded to the chain, and then it’s reversed by hours. Whatever that hourly amount is, which is fixed for the month, that portion is burnt from the CNR in quarantine. That’s why I say yes and no.

I’m going to play devil’s advocate as well because it doesn’t matter if they are burnt. The organization flips a switch and creates more of them.

That’s not the focus at Centric. Since the beginning of 2020, there’s no intention to print more Centric Rise. Centric Rise CNR, which is the non-traded token, that is a deflationary global supply, which is going down. We started with $1 billion. We’re down to around $891 or so million and it’s burning every hour. The base supply of the non-traded token is shrinking and CNS has an elastic supply. We don’t use the term unlimited because the only people who can print CNS are the users. This goes back to autonomy. A fully decentralized network is that the users have the power to print CNS.

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I’m going to go down this rabbit hole a little bit deeper. We’re going to go back to the discussion of the US dollar. Back when there was a gold standard, the idea was that it took a lot of work to dig gold out of the ground. Gold had value based on the amount of work it took to create it. Bitcoin modeled that when it was created by Satoshi Nakamoto.

Whoever he or she or they are, some say it was the CIA who created it. Maybe it was the Russians. Who knows? The point is that now, what we’re getting into here is that the non-traded core token, the CNR, the Centric Rise is fixed at $1 billion. It’s burning every day, every hour. It’s going to be less and less. Here’s a crazy question. When does the burning stop?

The yields and the burn never stops. It just slows down.

Those who get in early can get a faster rate of token awards or higher yields. Those who come later will get less. Here’s the interesting thing. Because there are less and less of those CNR coins, they intrinsically will become more and more valuable. There are thousands of them, but I don’t know any other crypto that says, “When it hits $1, we trigger this event.” First of all, why did you do that? What is exactly that event about the conversation we are having?

The way I would describe the event is a period of time. There’s a period when Centric Swap CNS stabilizes at the dollar. It could go up or down. We believe that event will probably be several months, at least. Once the market says, “That’s a stablecoin, isn’t it?” We can say, “Yes, it is but if you read our documents, it’s a synthetic stablecoin. It’s not backed by US dollars, dollar equivalents or other cryptos. It has been valued fully by the market at a dollar.” Now that our stable is backing the Centric network with Centric Rise CNR tokens backed fully by CNS stablecoins, then we are going to have this economy that’s based just on CNR. The transacting in CNR is going to be preferred because who doesn’t like a dollar that gains purchasing power every hour?

That’s a very unique twist. Do other coins do that too or is that exclusive to your own?

That’s one of the things that sets us apart. There are 3 or 4 other projects that are doing something similar, just not in the same way. There are a handful of other dual-token projects or two-token projects that have other focuses in their mission. Centric is truly unique. It drew me to the project as a retail investor.

It’s how you started with the company. You first became a retail investor because you got excited about the possibilities. You became acquainted with the founders or the owners and then you were offered the position. I know we have shared a lot of great information with this audience. If you’re reading and you’re confused, I’m with you. I understand why you’re confused.

After spending time with Joel before the show, I find this to be a fascinating opportunity. I find that there are layers of understanding that you can uncover for yourself as you go deeper into this process. Before we get too deep into the next part of the show, when someone says, “I like what Mitch and Joel were talking about. I might want to look into this Centric thing,” where should they go to do that?

The best resource for new users or people who are looking at the network is our official website at We have a number of learning resources. I would click on the learn tab and start with the Basics page. That goes through the protocol. For people who want to have that deeper dive, they can read through the Whitepaper. You’ll probably end up reading the whitepaper a number of times because it’s a treasure chest.

FTC Joel Clelland | Crypto Coin
Crypto Coin: A Ponzi scheme is something that promises nothing for something.


Folks, don’t be afraid. We all have to start somewhere in learning something. If you never did anything or never heard of crypto before this show, then I doubt you’re still reading anyway. If you do and you have some experience and you have done things like you bought some coins and held them, go deeper. It’s worth understanding this because this is the new world. This is where we are. I shouldn’t even say it’s the new world. It’s the only world. It’s the real world.

Michael Saylor, who I admire immensely, not so much because he made a lot of money which he did, I admire him because he has conceptualized crypto and Bitcoin in a way that I don’t think others have. Michael Saylor says and I agree with him that this can be and should be the foundation for an entire civilization. Why? It is truly an asset that you can own. You don’t have to pay interest on it and fees around it.

If you buy real estate, you think, “I bought this building. It’s mine.” It’s not really because you’re paying property taxes every year. You might have to pay to improve it and do all these other things. If you think of any asset that you would buy, it is not just the asset. It is the maintenance of the asset. The other thing that he said exactly was, “Anybody today with a $50 cell phone can hold all of the money that they could ever imagine on that phone and never be charged to do so.” That reference is a revolution.

Something that gets me passionate is the fact that there are people throughout the world who don’t have access to traditional finance. We call them the unbanked. Some numbers are as high as two billion people globally. They might not be able to have access to a high-level advisor like you and me or even have bank accounts, but can they get smartphones anywhere? What I agree with Michael Saylor on that is that this is going to create new civilizations and a new equalizing point for humanity.

Folks, if you’re interested in this and intrigued by our conversation, certainly look into Centric but also look into Michael Saylor. He has some incredible videos on YouTube. He did an interview on the Tucker Carlson Show at I’m not promoting the network or his show. He did a one-hour interview that you can get for either free or for $1 sign-up. This interview was one of the most fascinating discussions I had ever listened to on the future of cryptology, cryptocurrency and digital assets. Please go listen to that.

Joel, we’re going to transition to the part of the show, which is fun and everybody seems to like it. It’s these two silly questions that I always ask, but they are not silly at all. It’s how we get to know you a little bit better. Here is the first question. Who in all of space and time would you like to have one hour to enjoy a walk in the park, a quick lunch or an intense conversation with?

Bryce Paul and his associate Aaron “PizzaMind” Malone wrote a book called Crypto Revolution and they have the Crypto 101 Podcast. These are two young men and I say young men because they are younger than the two of us. They have an interesting perspective with regard to what we’re talking about here. I enjoy an hour with him. If PizzaMind is available, he could hang out with us too.

The bottom line is that this is a conversation you could have. With maybe one email as the President of a coin operation company, you could reach out and do that. I would encourage you to do it. I bet you would have fun doing it.

That sounds like a nice little activity.

Here is the second question. This is the grand finale, the change-the-world question. What is it that you’re doing or would like to do that truly has the potential to change the world?

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My wife and I are planning to set up a family foundation to give back to our favorite causes. She lost her six-year-old nephew to brain cancer. Pediatric brain tumor research is important to us. There are a number of causes that are important to us and we want to set up that foundation as soon as possible. We believe that’s going to happen probably within the next few years.

Do you have a name for it?

It would be Joel and Peggy Clelland Foundation. It would be our names, but that’s not going to be the focus. The focus is going to be the good work and supporting the good work of others because there are so many amazing people out there that are already doing the work. They just need help and we want to be that help.

Before I let you go, I know you have a free gift for our audience and it’s pretty cool. Tell us about the gift.

One of the things that we do not normally do at Centric is giving away tokens. We’ll give away other people’s tokens but not Centric. What we do have is we have an online store with one of our partners, CipherVolt. They are a crypto fashion brand. It’s Centric has its own little store there where they have clothing items. Far back there, there’s one of the prints. Whoever the winner is or whoever you decide and the team decides is going to get the gift up to $100 in the Centric Store.

This isn’t a free gift for everybody. It’s a free gift for one person who I get to select. Here’s what we tend to do. We make something available to every reader because I was brought up in a world where there are no losers.

I know something I can give away to every reader of yours. Every member of your reading audience can set up a free Centric Wallet.

Tell us why that’s a gift.

During our visit, you asked about the best way to learn about Centric. It’s really at It’s an amazing resource. The ongoing blog series is incredible. The native Centric Wallet is also an amazing gift because it does a number of things. Once you get inside the wallet, you see the total global deflationary supply of CNR.

That token that is becoming scarcer is highlighted in the wallet, along with the market share of that wallet. If you have $1,000 or $100 in that wallet, it shows you your market share, which is going up every hour. That’s the other part of it that’s exciting for users. I’m not saying you have to put any tokens in the wallet, but the nice thing about it is the balance display is very engaging.

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I took a quick look and this looks interesting.

Let me know if anybody wants any other freebies. I’m not in the business of giving everything away. I haven’t opened the foundation yet.

Joel, if somebody is excited about finding out more or even talking to you, is that something that you would entertain?


How would they get in touch with you?

I’m @RealClelland on Twitter. That’s the best way to get a hold of me. @CentricRise is the official Twitter for Centric. I directed everybody to and if you go at the bottom, it has our Telegram channel. Those are very engaging. My LinkedIn profile, you can go ahead and include that in the description notes.

Readers, this is an invitation to dive deep into the crypto world with a person who is at the helm of hopefully, one of the next major tokens of the future. Take this opportunity. Don’t waste it. Get involved and learn as much as you can. This is what it’s about these days. Some of us that are older don’t like new things and I’m the opposite. I love new things. I’m a shiny objects guy. This is the shiniest object on my desktop. I want to learn a lot about it and I hope you do too. Joel, thank you so much for your interview, time and gifts as well as the education.

It’s my pleasure.

Folks, take advantage of this. This is worthwhile. Joel, I’ll talk to you again soon.

I’m looking forward to it.

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